(Saint from Madhya Pradesh)

A swami named Mangalanand Paramhans Dhuniwale was attending the gathering, but he had come with the intention of "exposing" Meher Baba to be a fraud. The previous night he had disturbed those sleeping near him by loudly chanting from the Vedas. Dhake told him to pipe down and have some consideration for others, but Mangalanand responded sharply, "This is my daily ritual, so please leave me alone. I am a tiger, so be warned."

Dhake retorted, "If you a tiger than I am a hunter! Come outside and I will show you."

The swami then agreed to sleep. During the program, he was roaming about outside the darshan pandal, refusing to enter. Baba sent Pukar with a message for him to come inside and sit on a chair in front of him. Surprisingly, the man agreed. The "tiger" had changed his stripes!

After some time, Baba instructed Pukar, "If Swami is hungry and feels happy, he should go for his food." Swami Mangalanand conveyed to Baba that since Baba was happy, he also was happy, and did not feel like eating then. Lord Meher-p-4253-1958)

Baba called Swami Mangalanand to the stage. The swami touched Baba's feet, and Baba asked him if he would obey Him, then stated, "Even if it comes to dropping your body, you should stick to My order." The Swami agreed. Baba ordered him to fast only on water and to remain silent for 40 days. He asked whether the Swami would do it. He gladly accepted. Baba said, "If you do this and do not allow anyone to worship you or touch your feet, I will give you a glimpse of My divinity." Baba instructed him to leave immediately for Mandla, where he was living in a hut on land formerly owned by Baba. After he left, Baba remarked to the gathering, "Let us see whether he really obeys Me." (Lord Meher-p-4267-1958)

Baba then plunged into the "headache" of discourses and repeated in brief his discourse on "Opiumized Saints" for Godavri Mai's benefit. He also told her about Swami Mangalanand and how, at first, on the strength of his knowledge of the Vedas, he had opposed Baba. But after meeting Baba, on one word, Swami Mangalanand immediately left Meherabad to observe silence for 40 days and to fast only on water, according to Baba's instructions. (Lord Meher-p-4281-1958)




(Saint from Dehradun)

From June 15th, Baba decided to fast for a week on water mixed with lemon juice and sugar. He first consulted his doctors Donkin, Nilu and Goher, who said it would not drastically affect his health, and they promised not to interfere with his wish. Adi Sr. arrived in Dehra Dun that day and stayed for three days.

In the vicinity of Dehra Dun were four prominent saints: Miran Bhai, Anandi Mai, (1) Sant Ishwar Singh and Sant Mangat Ram. Baba wished to contact three of the saints, namely: Anandi Mai, Ishwar Singh and Mangat Ram. But because He was about to fast, He decided instead to contact them by proxy Touching Baidul's feet twice, Baba instructed Baidul to go to Ishwar Singh and Mangat Ram and bow to each of them.

On 18 June 1953, going to Sant Mangat Ram's ashram in Dehradun accompanied by Eruch and Baidul, Baba touched the saint's feet and immediately left. He stated, "Mangat Ram is a genuine seeker. He is really a saint, as he seeks wholeheartedly. He is anemic, yet eats only four ounces daily." Once outside, Baba sent Eruch back to the saint to tell him that it was, in fact, Meher Baba who had bowed to him.

Mangat Ram told Eruch, "The world is full of cruelty and wickedness, and Baba should save mankind from its effects and results." In reply, Baba commented to Eruch, "Now, even the saints are feeling disgusted!"


(Perfect Master)

Baba said: Maulana Rumi was a great savant of his time. He could give good speeches and discourses. When he travelled from place to place, the books of his learned lore were packed and carried on camelback. Everywhere, he was accorded the highest honours. Shams-e-Tabriz, on the other hand, was quite naked. One day they encountered each other and Shams threw all Rumi's books in a well. Rumi was furious with him, but Shams explained that all his books, including the Koran, were like dry bones for a dog! "Until now," he said, "you have been chewing only the bones; it is time you tasted the brain!"

Rumi was greatly upset, and so Shams had all the books drawn out of the well. They were completely dry! This amazed Rumi, and Shams said, "As long as Rumi does not become the slave of Shams, he will learn nothing!" Henceforth, Rumi became his Master's slave, and Shams eventually made him God-realized.

Baba ended by saying, "Become men of Experience, and for that be like the dust at the Master's feet."

Shams-e-Tabriz, although a Perfect Master, used to play the game chowkhat (similar to checkers), which was his favorite game. Rumi would invariably lose the game. After years with Shams, one day while playing the game, Rumi lost as usual and exclaimed: "Alas! I have lost again!"

Shams said: "No, this time you have won!" That very instant, Rumi received God-realization from Shams.

Maulana Rumi was so intelligent that he had more brains than all the present day pandits (religious scholars) put together! (as a scholar), he wrote a lot of books on spirituality.

Once in an exceptional mood, Baba remarked about the Masters and saints, past and present, in Iran and India: “They are the real flowers of humanity- flowers of spiritual power! In Iran, Shams*e-Tabriz, Maulana Rumi and Hafiz all were Perfect. Omar Khayyam was not God-realised but high advanced.


Another of those who had come for darshan was Mauna Swami, the person who had made arrangements for darshan in Pamaru. On Baba's last visit to Eluru in 1953, this swami of his own accord volunteered to stay at Subba Rao's and work as a pujari (priest) in the temple, which Subba Rao wanted to build in the garden consecrated to Baba. Baba agreed to it but ordered the swami to stay permanently in Eluru. Breaking Baba's order, the swami had left after some time.

"Why did you leave?" Baba asked him.

"People here did not treat me properly," he said.

Baba replied, "Is that the thing you should think about? You ought to have died rather than left the place! For God, all inconveniences are nothing. They cannot be used as an excuse. Now from the day I leave Andhra, stay in one place, in a small place for 40 days.

Don't eat; if hungry, take only milk, and day and night repeat, 'Baba, Baba, Baba.' ”If you observe this order, I will be pleased; if not you will have wasted this life. So remember for 40 days do not eat anything. Whenever you feel hungry, drink tea or milk, nothing else. Do not leave that place for 40 days, except for nature's call in the morning. I am God, so you must stick to my orders."

Mauna Swami began weeping and Baba stopped for a few minutes. Reiterating his orders, he continued: "From March 5 for 40 days, night and day, don't sleep even for one minute. One cup of milk, one cup of tea you can take, nothing else. You may drink as much water as you like. But don't leave the place where you reside, not even for going to the bazaar or outside the town. Repeat, 'Baba, Baba, Baba.'

"Even if you go mad or die, don't break the order and don't make a show. Don't let anyone bow down to you, or fold their hands before you or follow you. Have no followers. Simply repeat My name. If you obey 100 percent, you will get a glimpse of who Baba is!"

The swami looked forlorn and dejected, and Baba advised, "Don't be nervous. Do it with love, wholeheartedly. If you do it wholeheartedly, I will help you. Then you will have a glimpse of Baba."

The sequel to the story is that on 4 March 1954 at Kakinada, the last day Baba was in Andhra, the swami came and requested Baba's permission to go see his mother at Eluru. He had been told by Baba to spend the 40 days in Kovvur. Contrary to what Baba had told him about not making a show, one of the local Andhra residents also informed Baba that the swami had invited people to take his darshan after 40 days.

Baba instructed: "Tomorrow at noon eat a sumptuous meal to your heart's content. Tonight sleep well. From tomorrow noon for 40 days, don't eat, except one cup of tea and one cup of milk, and as much water as you like — no fruits, no sweets, nothing! In the cup of milk, add sugar, and for 40 days repeat my name continuously.

"No sleep, but if you doze unconsciously, don't be afraid. Even if you fall asleep unconsciously, don't worry, but consciously try to keep awake, night and day. Try, but if unconsciously you doze or fall asleep, don't worry. Don't think that you have failed me and don't then give up.

"This is not for others and don't make a show of it. Why did you invite people? Do you want Baba or appreciation? The least show will drop you to the lowest level. You love Me, I know. Because you love Me that is why I want you to have just a glimpse of who I am. But don't attach any importance to fasting and keeping awake. Do it for me!"

Baba then embraced Mauna Swami, who began following His instructions from the next day. But again, contrary to Baba's orders, he made a lot of fuss and show, and was found wanting in many other respects also.


(Women Saint Krishna Era)

Mira was one of Meher Baba's favorite saints and her story is famous in India:

Mira was a Hindu born around 1498, in the village of Kurkhi, Rajasthan. She was married to a Rajasthan king, but she was so absorbed in devotion to Krishna, she had no attachment to her husband (who was killed in a battle when Mira was in her late twenties) or to his kingdom. She would compose songs in praise of Krishna and then leave the palace to sing them to the common people. The new king and his family considered it degrading, but she did not care.

Once, the royal family was so upset they plotted to kill her. They placed a cobra in Mira's flower basket. When she opened the basket to garland Krishna's statue, the cobra had been transformed into flowers. In another attempt to murder her, they gave her a glass dosed with poison. She drank it saying Krishna's name and the poison turned to nectar. Thus, they began to realize Mira was no ordinary person and was protected by Krishna.

Years passed and Mira's absorption became all-consuming. One day she left the palace and did not return. Singing Krishna's praises, she walked far until she reached Vrindavan, the sacred place of Krishna and the gopis, and remained there. When she did not return, the king searched far and wide. He finally found her, absorbed in her ecstatic vision of Krishna. Many people recognized that she was a genuine saint and stayed near her, and the king and his family became her followers.

An Indian woman devotee came to see Baba at Meherabad on Sunday, 28 October 1934. She complained openly before Baba that she wished to stop having sexual intercourse with her husband because of her desire to see God. But her husband was unwilling.

Consoling her, Baba explained, "It is better to treat your husband with love and affection, even if you dislike and do not wish to indulge in intercourse because of your spiritual aspiration and desire to love God. It is good to have no sexual desires, but when it comes to a question of duty, you must sacrifice a little of your interest and please your husband.

"Keep your mind focused toward God and give your body to your husband. You needn't worry. Just try to do as I advise.

These remaining sanskaras must be finished before the Experience is given. Remember Mirabai's sacrifice and how she suffered. Be like her."




(Saint from Bombay)

In Bombay, there lived a Sindhi self-styled saint Mirchandani. On 25 th February when Meher Baba’s birthday falls, some under Mirchandani’s sway suggested to chose  him as Chief Guest. Mehta wanted to meet Mirchandani in this regard but Panchal ji disagreed. Mehta presumed Mirchandani was an advance soul and introduced Ratilal & Gulab Panchal to the saint. Ratilal (related to Panchal) came into influence of Mirchandani. Mirchandani claimed he has direct link with God. If you live with me then I can take you to God.” Ratilal kept nodding in agreement. When saint turned to Gulab to acknowledge but Gulab said, “He had Meher Baba and that was sufficient.”

The Saint asked Gulabdas, “What do get from Baba?”

Gulab: Inner Pleasure

Mirchandani: What your Master does in Meherabad?

Gulab: Teach us discourses, pray and we do aartis

Mirchandani:  If your Master takes you to the doctor of Khuda (God) what will you do?

Gulab: I will stick to my Baba only.

Gulab repeatedly took Baba’s name in his mind while this verbal duel continued with the saint. Gulab and Mirchandani were actually having a slowdown in front of everyone. The verbal duel turned into a silent staring match between them. It continued for 15 minutes. Both of them did not blink and everyone else was waiting to eat which was served. Gulabdas had Meher Baba’s power and after an agonizing 15 minutes, Mirchandani lowered his guard and blinked. The saint put his head down to eat. Gulab told Ratilal and Mehta to eat. Although Gulab did not wish to eat, he took a little morsel in his mouth. He did not wish to insult the food in front of him. Then they all left the place.

Gulabdas went home and wrote a letter to Baba describing the incident. He wanted to know what was the meaning of all this. In response to the letter, Baba sent Eruch to Singanporia’s house in Bombay. A date of meeting with saint Mirchandani was fixed. A meeting of Baba lovers also held   at Singanporia’s center (present Navyug Niwas centre was nonexistent). Eruch said, “Now that you all have the Avatar amidst you there should not be any need to visit local saint. In this Avataric Cycle, He is the God in human form.

Eruch also went to meet Mirchandani. When the two of them met Eruch told him, “If you are the Avatar then make this declaration, “I am the Lord of the universe. I will leave Meher Baba and hold your feet.” Further, he told Mirchandani to say, “I am also God. I, Mirchandani am the lord of universe.” The saint agreed and started to repeat what Eruch had just said, “I, I…I…Mirchandani…says Meher Baba is the Lord of universe.” The saint had suddenly taken the name of Meher Baba instead of his own. The saint was just not able to declare that he was the Lord of the Universe. The saint hung his head and Eruch went away. All Babalovers who liked to dabble with other saints. Yogis and wali also got a strong message with this incident.


(Sixth plane soul)

Om 29th, January 1958, Meher baba with men mandali went to watch Cecil B. DeMille’s film “Ten commandments” at Regal Cinema in Bombay. Baba liked and praised the movie although He and His men left halfway at intermission when Moses sees God as the burning bush on the top of Mount Sinai where he receives Ten Commandments.

Afterwards Baba revealed:

“Moses was on the sixth plane. His seeing the land of Israel but was not able to enter it is symbolic of his experience on the sixth plane of seeing God, but yet not merging in Him. Though, when He dropped his body Moses realised God. I liked this picture very much; it was well acted and well made. It has much to give those who are able to receive it. Rameses (II) in his next incarnation entered the Path; the old Pharaoh (Seti) received mukti, because he took Moses’s name when dying.”

Moses was not an Avatar, he was on the sixth plane (Baba told them all this), but Abraham was an Avatar.



(Religious Head of Jain Sect)

Third World Religious Conference which has been sponsored by Muni Shushil Kumar Ji was held at Ramlila grounds New Delhi from 26th to 28th February, 1965.  A list 85 delegates and 24 speakers were invited including ardent baba Lovers including Adi. K. irani, Amar Singh Saigal, Dr. Moorty, Dr. Bharucha, Dr. Deshmukh, K.K. Ramakrishnan, Mr. Nalavala, Mr. Kutumb Shastri, Dr. Dhanapathy Rao, A.C.S. Chari, P. D. Nigam  etc. In the inaugural session included recitation of   Parvardigar Prayer or Masters Prayer by Sardar Amar Singh Saigal on behalf of Avatar Meher Baba Centre.

 Shri Guljari Lal Nanda, Union Home Minister, Shri. Morarji Desai, Prime Minister of India and several other dignitaries and religious heads kike Sant Kripal Singh spoke o the occasion. Speech was made by Muni Shushil Kumar also.  He also said the World Fellowship of Religions had done a good deal of work in prompting fellowship among the people of different religious beliefs.


(Two Sufis from America)

One of those who met Baba for the first time was a lawyer from Washington, D.C., named Edward "Ned" Foote, 47. Ned had come to know of Baba through his wife, Dorothea, also 47, who had learned about Baba in 1954 from Ivy. Ivy's husband Terry and Ned were having a business meeting then, and so the wives were talking until they finished. Dorothea had been looking for a Master since 1944 and was intrigued by what Ivy told her of Baba. She had driven down to Myrtle Beach from Washington with Peggy and Andy Muir and eleven other Sufis. Ned was concerned about her involvement, but when she phoned him from the Center he consented to come down and meet Baba for himself. On entering the Lagoon Cabin, Ned looked straight into Baba's eyes and instantly knew who He was. Baba put a nut into his mouth as prasad.

Sarosh brought Ned and Dorothea Foote, two Sufis from America, who garlanded Baba and took His darshan. The Footes had informed Baba of their week-long trip to India in advance, but had been forbidden by Baba to seek Him out. According to Baba's instructions, Arnavaz contacted them in Bombay and then they flew to Delhi intending to visit the Taj Mahal in Agra. There they received a telegram stating that Baba would permit them to be in Ahmednagar on the evening of the 24th February, 1958 and for His birthday the next day. They were told that they would have to leave that same evening, and that Baba would not give an interview or answer any questions. So they flew back to Bombay and rented a car to drive to Ahmednagar. Their travel agent thought they were mistaken, saying, "You mean Ahmedabad? No tourist ever goes to Ahmednagar!" They assured him Ahmednagar was correct. (Lord Meher-p-4300-1958)

Elizabeth's car was not working one morning, so Ned Foote was enlisted to drive Baba to the Barn in his blue Cadillac. Baba sat in the front seat, Meherjee and Eruch in the back. Ned also drove Baba back to his house from the Barn. At one point on the way back, Baba laughed and patted Ned on the back.

Baba had decided that he wanted to own nothing in America in his name, so that evening He called Ned Foote, who was an attorney, and asked him to draw up plans to make the Meher Center into a nonprofit corporation headed by Elizabeth. Don Stevens, Ivy and Charmian Duce were called at one point, and he gave instructions to them about their future work with Sufism Reoriented.

In 1962, Baba remarked to Dorothea Foote who had an alcohol problem, "Fill your cup with the Wine of divine love; then, you will not want to drink anything else." In this case, the woman did not give up drinking alcohol totally; however, her husband Ned did and became active in Alcoholics Anonymous.

Baba discussed a certain matter alone with Ned Foote for five minutes after the morning session. He had spoken with him privately at other times during the gathering also. Ned wondered about it. "I can't understand why Baba spends so much time with Me," He remarked to Elizabeth. "There are a lot of other people here more spiritual than I."


(Perfect Master)

Baba elucidated that Nizamuddin Auliya, Bualishah Qalandar and Chishti of Ajmer were all Sufi Perfect Masters.  He mentioned that Chishti was even considered to be on the same level as Muhammad; however, he was not equal to the Prophet, but the Qutub-e-Irshad of his time — the head of the spiritual hierarchy. Chishti established Sufism in India, and his tomb-shrine in Ajmer is a greatly revered place of pilgrimage.

These Perfect Masters and other Muslim Qutubs always liked listening to ghazals, which have been preserved in the various Divans of Hafiz.




In Omkareshwar, Baba Met a Bengal pundit (a Brahmin scholar or priest) named Nirmal Ananda Swami. The local people called him Mahatma, taking him to be a holy man. While Baba talked to him (in English), Sadashiv was instructed to take a bath in the sacred Narmada river. With the swami’s help, Baba found a number of other sadhus in the area to whom he could bow.




(Saint from Bombay)

In 1956, Eruch was sent to Ganeshpuri in Gujrat  to convey Baba’s message  to saint Nityanand that he is one of Baba's beloved, precious children."

In year 1957, Krishna had been sent home from Satara, and he missed Baba terribly. According to Baba’s orders, he had taken a job in Bombay, but, despondent and depressed; he felt he could not live without staying with Baba. He travelled to Swami Nityanand’s ashram north of Bombay, where he met the great saint. When Krishna stood before him, without asking anything, Nityanand began laughing. Krishna, too, did not say.

He quietly left and climbed up the mountain near the saint's ashram, reaching the top at 4:00 P.M. He had resolved to leap off the mountain cliff into the huge canyon below. No one would find his body hidden in the crevices. But, to be sure, he decided to jump after dark. He lay down and fell asleep. When he awoke, it was dark. He took three steps toward the edge of the cliff and suddenly heard Baba's clap. He turned and saw Baba standing before him. Baba was in his early thirties. He wore a sadra, and his long hair was open. Krishna told Bhau, "Baba's eyes were burning like fire! Red in colour and flashing!" Krishna fell down unconscious. When he woke up, he abandoned his thoughts of suicide. When Krishna had changed his mind and returned home.

When Krishna met Baba, Baba asked about what had happened that day. Baba commented, "You think I am here only, but I am everywhere — all over the world, and in your heart also." Krishna said, "At that time I thought it would be simple to follow your wishes, but it is very, very difficult." Baba said, "Never mind. Return to your job. This is my order. You are free to come and see me whenever you like."