GROUP-11 (DIGNITARIES) SL.NO. 41-60

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GROUP-11 (DIGNITARIES) BIOGRAPHIES SL. NO. 21-40

SL NO NAME OFFCE OF HOLDING
21 Chief Justice of Bombay High Court Chief Justice of Bombay High Court
22 Constance Collier Hollywood movie actress and drama teacher
23 Datar B. N. Ex. Minster of Home Govt. of India
24 Dixit G . Y. Vice-chancellor of Kolhapur University,
25 Dr. Ambedkar B. R. Indian Political Leader
26 Dr. Chenna Reddy M. Ex. Health Minister of Steel, Mines & Metals  Govt. of India
27 Dr. Couch Educationist from Australia
28 Dr. Hari Vinayak Pataskar Governor of Madhya Pradesh
29 Dr. K. L. Rao. Ex. Minister of Irrigation & Power Govt, of India
30 Dr. Punjab Rao S. Deshmukh Ex. Central Minster Govt. of India
31 Dr. Radhakrishnan Ex. President of India
32 Dr. Rajendra Prasad Ex. President of India
33 Dr. Raman C. V. Noble Prize winner & scientist
34 Dr. Subodh Chandra Roy An Hindu Indian Scholar
35 Dr. Sushila Nayyar Ex. Health Minister of Health Govt, of India
36 Dr. Vikram Sarabhai Indian Scientist -A Student of Oxford University
37 Dr. Zabih Ghorban  Qurban) Vice Chancellor of Pahlavi University of Shiraj
38 Dr. Triguan Sen Ex. Minister of Education Govt. of India
39 Edward VIII King of UK who  abdicated
40 Ernst Lubitsch Hollywood Film Star

 

 

 

21-CHIEF JUSTICE OF BOMBAY HIGH COURT

During one of Meher Baba’s stay at Guruprasad in Poona, Chief Justice of the Bombay High Court arrived one morning with his wife and children, seeking Baba’s darshan.

Baba was in seclusion at that time but nevertheless He permitted them to spend five minutes in His presence. The whole family sat at His feet and Baba asked whether they had good night’s sleep and He enquired of the health of each one.

Then turning to man, Baba asked, “What is your profession?”

“I am a judge. Baba,” the man replied’

Baba smiled and said, “I am in the same profession.”

The man seemed confused but a short while later Baba explained. “There is one difference between you and Me.” He said. “When a guilty one is brought before you, you establish his guilt and then you punish him. On the other hand when guilty one is brought before Me, I establish his guilt and then forgive him.” (Ancient One-p-126))

22-CONSTANCE COLLIER

(Hollywood movie actress and drama teacher)

2 January 1935 was Minta's birthday and chicken and ice cream and cake were served. Baba gave her a scarf and Minta presented Baba with an electric razor, which Adi began using to shave Baba.

Constance Collier, 57, a Hollywood movie actress and drama teacher, came to see Baba at the house on Camino Palmero on Sunday, 6 January 1935. She was having trouble with failing eyesight and Baba gave her a meditation to do, which he said would help her both physically and spiritually. She said to him, "I have hundreds of friends, but not one could be called a true one. I feel so alone."

Baba gestured to her, "I am your friend — a real one."

"Yes, I believe you are. I do not feel alone since I have known you.

Please remember me."

"I am in you all the time," Baba assured her.

23-DATUR B. N.

(Ex. Minster of Home Govt. of India)

A public meeting under the chairmanship of the Lok Sabha (Parliament) Speaker sh. Ananthasayanan Ayyangar, was arranged at the Constitution Club, New Delhi at 5 p.m.,

  1. N. Datar, the Union Minister of State for Home Affairs made a very touching speech. He told the audience how he met “Bhagwan Meher Baba”.

Later dr. Moorty enlightened the public on the importance of Meher Baba’s silence and proved by quotations and anecdotes how Meher Baba was considered to be Avatar

 

24-DIXIT G. Y.

Vice-chancellor of Kolhapur University,

Meanwhile G. Y. Dixit, a devoted follower and the vice-chancellor of Kolhapur University, invited Baba to participate in the opening of a new Montessori school. Because of his seclusion, Baba did not go. Instead, on Sunday, 18 October 1942, he sent Adi Sr. to deliver this message:

The form of service that a Montessori school takes has a practical value, if one's service is rendered selflessly. It is an important task, as it deals with the infant's nature in the prime of its development. The children's carefree hearts and restless pranks reflect qualities which are divine, and they are blissful in their innocence. The task is to see how far you can make use of this "divinity" in man, expressed through the child-God. A little patience, a little kindness, infinite understanding and sweet love are the only things by which the teachers can repay for having received the usefulness of human service at its purest.

My blessings to all those who are genuinely responsible for having this school opened, as much as to the children who will attend it.

  

25-DR. AMBEDKAR B. R.

(Indian Political Leader)

On 6 September 1932, Baba had sent Nilu to Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, leader and spokesman of the Untouchables, whom Mahatma Gandhi had urged Baba to meet.

Baba met Dr. Ambedkar at Bombay on 13 September 1932, and had long discussion.

Nilu was in medical school in Bombay and would occasionally visit Baba in Nasik. When Nilu informed Ambedkar about Meher Baba, Ambedkar agreed to see Baba immediately. So Baba returned to Bombay to meet with him. The following conversation took place at seven o'clock on the evening of 13 September:

"I am very pleased to see you," Baba began. "I have wanted to meet you for a long time."

"I was also eager to see you, but I had not been able to manage it," replied Ambedkar.

Baba then spelled out to him, "Let me clearly explain to you in detail why I wanted to see you and what I want you to do. First of all, let it be quite clear that I have nothing to do with politics. My concern in this matter is purely from the spiritual point of view, and out of my regard and feeling for the depressed classes. Apart from any politics, I have already done much for them during My time in Meherabad, where I made the high-class Brahmins live and eat in My ashram with Untouchables. Not only that, I made My Brahmin disciples bathe the Untouchable boys. I bathed them myself. I have the cause of the depressed classes at heart, and I quite understand and appreciate your efforts on their behalf.

"Now, the situation is such that the settlement of self-rule for India rests on the delicate question of joint or separate electorates for the depressed classes. Now is the time and occasion for those who fight for the causes of these Untouchables to strike while the iron is hot, getting as much as possible for them. So now, when the time of this golden opportunity for the poor Untouchables has come, I would advise you, for reasons I am about to explain, to accept the joint electorate with a reservation of seats and other rights and details to be settled with Gandhi and other leaders.

"I had a long meeting with Gandhi the day before his arrest. He explained things and asked me to tell you and the other leaders of the depressed classes to accept a joint electorate. He promised Me, if you and the other leaders accept that he would meet with you and be most sympathetic to the rights of the Untouchables, using his influence on all political leaders to insure justice in the new arrangement.

In 1932 at Bombay, Baba said to Dr. Ambedkar,

"There are reasons why I also want you to accept a joint electorate and join with Gandhi in this. By having the aid of the government for a separate electorate of the depressed classes now, you run the risk of forever clashing with Hindu society and establishing yourself as a separate class, branded Untouchables forever, which is the least desirable thing. The stigma of Untouchability is to be uprooted once and for all, and all classes are to be united. This is the time and occasion — the golden opportunity — to tell your non-Hindu brethren to include the oppressed with all their legitimate rights, or lose them and make them enemies forever, which no well-wishers of Hindu independence would want.

"Therefore, join hands with Gandhi and go along with him for a joint electorate. He has already promised to do his utmost for their representation and rights in the new government. Gandhi is sincere and will keep his word, and his influence will carry weight with other classes. I will also internally help your fight for the depressed classes, whose cause is always in my heart."

Dr. Ambedkar responded, "I understand what you mean and would like to do as you say, but I must explain that I alone cannot do it. I have to consult my colleagues in the party, provincial and all-India, before acting."

"But you can exercise your influence on them and I will help internally."

"That I will," replied Ambedkar. "But I cannot say if they will accept it or not."

"You need not worry," Baba assured him. "It is enough that you remember what I have told you. Try to persuade those in your party and bring them around through your influence. I will see to the rest. Will you do so?"

"Yes, I will," Dr. Ambedkar stated. Baba asked him to promise and he did so verbally.

"I am so glad," Baba concluded. "You will be doing the greatest service for your people. So, remember, I am very, very pleased to have seen you."

"So am I," said Ambedkar.

Dr. Ambedkar then left. After a discussion with his colleagues, all agreed to accept a joint electorate; but as events unfolded, it took a long time to happen.

On 6th September 1932, Baba communicated through with Gandhi through disciple Ramjoo. Ramjoo said to Gandhi, "You remember when Baba saw you last January, just before your arrest, that he promised you that he would meet the leaders of the Untouchables and use his influence to make them accept joint electorates. Accordingly, he saw some of the local leaders before he left and wired Dr. Ambedkar, who could not come. Baba then left for Europe and America.

"On his return, Baba came to know of your arrest and sent for Ambedkar, and had a talk with him for half an hour. Baba impressed upon him the fact that, although he himself never took part in any politics, he wanted to convince the depressed classes that it was for their own benefit to accept joint electorates with reservation of seats and other rights; otherwise, they would form themselves of their own accord into an Untouchable group for all time, and that sooner or later he wanted to see the Brahmins and so-called Untouchables on an equal footing, not only in politics but in the matter of religion and spirituality also.

"Ambedkar replied that he would keep Baba's advice in mind, but that first he had to consult with his committee members and would let Baba know the results later. Baba says that this settlement of the electorate problem, for which you have started fasting, will soon be settled, but he wishes you to fast for 40 days. In reference to your desire to spend a night with Baba and requesting the 'key' ..."

Meanwhile, on 6 September 1932, Baba had sent Nilu to Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, 41, leader and spokesman of the Untouchables, whom Mahatma Gandhi had urged Baba to meet.

"And there are reasons why I also want you to accept a joint electorate and join with Gandhi in this. By having the aid of the government for a separate electorate of the depressed classes now, you run the risk of forever clashing with Hindu society and establishing yourself as a separate class, branded Untouchables forever, which is the least desirable thing. The stigma of Untouchability is to be uprooted once and for all, and all classes are to be united. This is the time and occasion — the golden opportunity — to tell your non-Hindu brethren to include the oppressed with all their legitimate rights, or lose them and make them enemies forever, which no well-wishers of Hindu independence would want.

"Therefore, join hands with Gandhi and go along with him for a joint electorate. He has already promised to do his utmost for their representation and rights in the new government. Gandhi is sincere and will keep his word, and his influence will carry weight with other classes. I will also internally help your fight for the depressed classes, whose cause is always in my heart."

Dr. Ambedkar responded, "I understand what you mean and would like to do as you say, but I must explain that I alone cannot do it. I have to consult my colleagues in the party, provincial and all-India, before acting."

"But you can exercise your influence on them and I will help internally."

"That I will," replied Ambedkar. "But I cannot say if they will accept it or not."

"You need not worry," Baba assured him. "It is enough that you remember what I have told you. Try to persuade those in your party and bring them around through your influence. I will see to the rest. Will you do so?"

"Yes, I will," Dr. Ambedkar stated. Baba asked him to promise and he did so verbally.

"I am so glad," Baba concluded. "You will be doing the greatest service for your people. So, remember, I am very, very pleased to have seen you."

"So am I," said Ambedkar.

Dr. It is all humbug. The Theosophists, including Mrs. Besant and Krishnamurti, do not have even a whiff of the Truth. They say that the spirit of the World Teacher will manifest itself through the medium of this boy in the world, and that the chief "wire-puller" of this show is supposed to be somewhere in the Himalayas.

There is nothing but dust and stones in those mountains. Real teachers like Buddha, Krishna, Christ, and Zoroaster never kept themselves perched on heights or lost in jungles. They mixed freely with those for whose upliftment they worked. In spite of their unthinkable and unimaginable states of exaltation, they brought themselves down to the lowest levels of their surroundings and students.

Similarly, not a single Spiritual Master of the world who appeared under whatever external label ever required a "vehicle" save his own physical body. If this "vehicle" of the coming "World Teacher" dies within a year, let us see how Mrs. Besant takes it.

. Ambedkar then left. After a discussion with his colleagues, all agreed to accept a joint electorate; but as events unfolded, it took a long time to happen.

After meeting with Ambedkar in Bombay, Baba returned to Nasik. Within a few days, he sent Rustom to try to see Mahatma Gandhi in Yeravda Prison, Poona where he was incarcerated.

 

26-DR.CHENNA REDDY M

(Ex. Finance Minister of Andhra Pradesh)

The Finance Minister of Andhra Pradesh, Channa Reddy, and his family came to see Baba. Baba remarked to him, "There is now conflict between Pakistan and India.

India is blessed because I am born in India. There is no cause for worry."

The minister said, "Even the Chinese situation is bad."

Baba replied, "I know everything. India need not worry. When I break my silence, the world will know who I am. All misery will disappear when people will begin to love me. They will then come to know that only God is worth worrying about."

In order to remember that eventful day of 2nd December 1952, when Meher Baba gave Public darshan at Delhi. 1n 1967, three days programme was announced. The first day meeting was held at Lajpat Bhawan Hall New Delhi which was inaugurated by Mr. Triguna Sen, Minister of Education. Dr. M. Chenna Reddy, minister of steel and Mines offered their flowers of devotion by speaking with great fervor about life and teachings of Avatar Meher Baba.

27-DR. COUCH

(An Educationist from Australia)

Amar Singh Saigal, Indian Parliamentary Delegate to Yugoslavia met Dr. Couch –a Doctor of Philosophy-of Australia, in Moscow on his way back to India0 After the formal introduction, Shri Saigal told Dr. Couch that all geographical, historical literary or philosophical research was of no value   in absence of a spiritual understanding, which only the Avatar in this Avataric Age could impart. Dr. Couch, who was educationist, was rather taken aback at this bold stand. Seeing him in perplex situation, Shri Amar Singh Saigal gave him some of Avatar Meher Baba’s literature containing Meher Baba’s bibliographical sketch and a picture. He told him avatar wants little of us. All he wants is complete surrender and complete abandon. He wants every one of us to purify ourselves and live a life of love and will to Humanity. He advised him to go through Baba’s books, especially God Speaks as “Nothing of this kind has been rendered before.”

28-DR. HARI VINAYAK PATASKAR

(Governor of Madhya Pradesh)

The Governor of Madhya Pradesh, Dr. Hari Vinayak Pataskar, had inaugurated the Meher Baba Center at Raipur, and his speech there was carried on All India Radio. He longed for Baba's darshan, and Amar Singh Saigal beseeched Baba to permit him to come. On Baba's agreeing, Pataskar, his wife and Amar Singh arrived at Meherazad on Sunday, 15 December 1963 at 9:30 A.M. The road was lined with police as their car sped through the gates of Meherazad. Although Pataskar held an important and influential government post, he was a sincere and unaffected person, and was visibly moved when Baba embraced him. His wife was severely afflicted with arthritis, and when she was carried into the hall on a chair and seated before Baba, she cried out, "Closer, closer, put me closer to Baba!" She talked to Baba with such confidence and candor, as if she felt certain of his love and understanding. It was a most touching scene.

Their daughter had leprosy and Mrs. Pataskar begged Baba to cure her. Baba instructed that the girl should fill a glass with water every morning, look at it and repeat Baba's name before drinking it. "My nazar will be on her," Baba assured the woman, "and on you too."

  

29-DR. K. L. RAO

CABINNET MINISTER

The eleventh commemoration of the first Public darshan that Baba gave in December 1952 in Delhi was observed at a public meeting    in New Delhi at Ramlila ground with number of M.P.’s and cabinet Ministers of Central government among large attendance. Dr. K L. Rao, The Minister For irrigation and Power inaugurated the celebration, garlanded Beloved Baba’s portrait before speech. He spoke. He spoke on the need for mankind to receive and follow Baba’s message to awaken his love

 

30-DR. DESHMUKH PUNJAB RAO

(Ex. Central Minster Govt. of India)

On the afternoon of the 22nd, a program was held in the Janata College Maharshi Hall at 4:15 P.M. A central government minister, Dr. Punjab Rao S. Deshmukh, received Baba, as did the principal, Dr. Jawala Prasad, and other members of the faculty. After garlanding Baba, Punjab Rao delivered a speech. Bhajan singing was performed, Baba's message "Religion and Politics" was read out and the students of the college were given prasad. Sagane presented Dr. Rao with a large photograph of Baba sent by Harjiwan Lal of Delhi.

While it was being installed in the hall, Dr. Rao said, "The photograph in this hall will always remind us of your visit here." Baba also unveiled a portrait of the saint Ramana Maharshi, after whom the hall had been named, and then toured the college campus.

 

31-DR. RADHAKRISHNAN

(Ex. President of India)

On 9 February 1936, the politician Dr. S. Radhakrishnan came to see Baba with V. Subrahmanya Iyer, 67, the retired vice-chancellor of Mysore University and a professor of philosophy, and Professor Wadia, also of Mysore University.  Radhakrishnan had come to know about Baba through Dr. Deshmukh in Nagpur and learned of Baba's presence in the area through Iyer, who was one of Baba's neighbours. Kalemama informed them that Meher Baba was now in seclusion and would not be granting interviews until his seclusion ended in June. They left.

Radhakrishnan never came again for Baba's darshan, though he was interested in Baba and was later given a copy of God Speaks. After he became President of India during the 1960s, he would hear about Baba from Delhi Baba lovers, Mona and Manohar Sakhare. They would keep Radhakrishnan informed about Baba's activities and play Baba's arti for him on their record player.

Baba came to see the three Westerners on the hill on the 3rd. Adi Sr. arrived with Dr. Deshmukh, who was introduced to Irene. A copy of God Speaks was given to Irene to present to Dr. S. Radhakrishnan, the Vice-President of India (who had met Baba), taking a promise from him to read the entire book. Irene was then driven back to Bombay and then left for Delhi where she wished to spend the winter with friends.

Dr. Deshmukh knew the President of India, Dr. S. Radhakrishnan, who he had first told about Baba in the mid-1930s.

Radhakrishnan subsequently met Baba in Mysore in 1936. Manohar and Mona Sakhare arrived in Poona from Delhi and informed Baba that they had recently met the President and given him a copy of Stay With God and other literature. Radhakrishnan had been very pleased to hear about the East-West Gathering and more about Baba, and expressed a desire to meet him again soon. In response, Baba stated, "The President will come some day. Everyone will come one day. Even saints, real or false, will come. They have no alternative but to come to me."

While in Delhi, Deshmukh had also met the President of India, Dr. S. Radhakrishnan, whom he had met many years before. He presented a copy of The God-Man to him. Radhakrishnan had read God Speaks and Listen, Humanity. Baba wished him to read God Speaks again, so when, Manohar and Mona Sakhare were to meet him (on 5 March 1966), and they were told to pass along Baba's instructions.

Dr. S. Radhakrishnan while in New Delhi had evinced great interest in the teachings of Meher Baba. Although he was unable to attend any of the functions due to so many official “engagements” he used to send messages of good wishes on Baba’s birthday celebrations One of these messages are g  is reproduced below:

Rastrapati Bhawan

New Delhi-4

February, 1964

“I am happy to know that 70th Birthday Anniversary of Shri Meher Baba is being celebrated in Delhi.  I send my best wishes on the occasion and hope that his teaching will continue to inspire a large number of people in our country.”

(S. Radhakrishnan)

 

32-DR. RAJENDRA PRASAD

Ex. President of India

The Phrase –those who remember Baba, directly or indirectly is very significant because it goes without saying that Dr. Rajinder Prasad did remember Baba and the fact that Baba had given a preference the residence of Sri. W. D. Kain in President’s Estate further confirms that Dr. Rajendra prasad had carved a niche in his heart. Two incidents in the life of Dr. Rajendra Prasad confirm it.

On one occasion, President was taken seriously ill and was removed to Sen’s Nursing home. His younger son called me who was close to Shri W.D. Kain sent an urgent telegram to Shri Kain who was in Rishikesh. Though Dr. Rajendra Prasad was in nursing home so serious that at Rastrapati Bhawan they were arranging for “His Last Darshan”. Mr. Kain coming to Delhi immediately headed for ICU in the hospital.mr. Kain said to Dr. Rajendra Prasad, “Let us go to Rastrapati Bhawan. He nodded in agreement. We returned to Rastrapati Bhawan. During next two years (when he retired) there was no instance of any trouble not even a minor headache.-Baba had done this all.

On another occasion, President was going on tour to Bombay via Rajasthan; Shri W. D. Kain was called and asked to go to Bombay with “Meher Baba File.”Since the president loved Shri Kain like his son, he sent his security officer with Shri Kain. President had directed Mr. Kain to find about Shri Meher Baba where about in Bombay and in case He happened to be there or near about, the President would like to meet Him. President stayed at Raj Bhawan. Police man was sent the residence of Nariman’s residence, which was away to Ahmednagar where Baba was stationed at that time; moreover, the state Govt. could not arrange the return tour of the President to Ahmednagar both on account of security reasons as well as for lack of time. So in spite of President’s wish to have Baba’s darshan, he found himself helpless. Later on in Delhi when Shri Kain reminded the President about fixing the programme of seeing Baba, he said with a smiling face, “Ho gaya” “It is not necessary now. I have it.” Apparently Baba had revealed himself to the President and President appeared very happy.

33-DR. RAMAN C. V.

(Noble Prize winner & scientist)
  A third meeting was held at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore on 9 November 1939. The Nobel Prize winning Indian physicist Dr. C. V. Raman chaired the gathering. Deshmukh gave a stirring speech on the question of science versus spirituality. Norina and Nadine then spoke about their experiences of being with Meher Baba. Deshmukh had been so logical and convincing, and Norina and Nadine so sincere, that Raman was impressed with the depth of their feelings, in spite of himself.

Afterwards, in his remarks, Raman observed:

I have never been a believer in personalities as such, although I have read the life of Buddha, Christ, et cetera, and have great respect and reverence for them.

 

Yet, when I visited the ruins of Benares and other places of pilgrimage, I could not help but allow the atmosphere of those places to touch and inspire me.

It is certainly a strange experience, since the sages have lived thousands of years in the past, and yet their influence still pervaded the atmosphere of those places where they had lived. This experience is not a matter to be expressed by words but it is a matter of feeling. If only the ruins create such feelings after centuries, then certainly spirituality is a matter of feeling and not of intellect.

Although he disagreed with Deshmukh at the beginning, C. V. Raman concluded that after hearing his talk he agreed with him entirely, stating:

This was not only because of the logic of (Dr. Deshmukh) arguments, but primarily because of his great sincerity and faith, with which he expressed and clung to his views.

Although the teachings of all Prophets are identical, they are very difficult to follow. A teacher is always greater than his teachings, and the influence he wields over humanity is due to his being a living example of these teachings. People will be able to estimate the value of Shri Meher Baba through his personal contact.

34-DR- SUBODH CHANDRA ROY

(A Hindu Indian Scholar)

An Indian Hindu scholar named Dr. Subodh Chandra Roy, aged fifty, had been teaching in New York at the New School for Social Research since 1948. One day after a lecture, a lady named Rose Garbade (who had met Baba in America in 1958) gave Chandra Roy one of Baba's books. Chandra Roy had been blind since he was seven years old, and he was the first blind scholar to be granted a Fulbright Research Scholarship to travel and study in India. His research subject was "Modern Trends in Hinduism," and after talking at length with A.C. S. Chari in Calcutta, he was determined to meet Meher Baba.

Baba allowed him to come to Meherazad in January, but Chandra Roy failed to show up on the appointed day. Baba acted very concerned about him. By mistake, Chandra Roy had gone to Ahmadabad instead of Ahmednagar, a difference of over five hundred miles. But the man had a strong will and at last, found his way to Adi K. Irani's office in Ahmednagar.

On the morning of January 21st, at 9:00 A.M., he was brought to Meherazad by Adi. After embracing him, Baba also kissed him two or three times. Chandra Roy recalled the incident:

I was very happy and also much embarrassed, as I had never been kissed by a man. But Baba embraced and kissed me with such kindness and affection that it was most gracious.

Chandra Roy was with Baba for about three-quarters of an hour. Baba was in the mood to discourse and answered the scholar's questions about reincarnation.

Chandra Roy then asked, "What does Your darshan mean for a person without sight?"

Baba lovingly drew his hand over the man's face and explained, "All who come for My darshan are blind, for none can see Me as I am. There are very few in the world who can see Me, the rest see only illusion. But the contact of touching Me or receiving My embrace is a darshan of untold blessing, and so you are blessed."

When Chandra Roy asked about the breaking of His silence, Baba replied, "The fact that I have observed silence is in itself the answer that I must break it.”

"My silence is no vow. I had the urge to observe silence, and I will equally have the urge to break it. An urge is independent of time, but the time is fast approaching when I will have the urge to break My silence."

Chandra Roy spoke of his deep study of various world religions and the conclusions he had reached, and invited Baba's comments. In response, Baba stated, "There are two aspects of religion, the ceremonial and the spiritual – for example, the husk and the substance. When a man's consciousness begins to involve and he dives deep within, he can rightly assert that he belongs to no religion but that all religions belong to him."

"How should I characterize your teachings?" asked Chandra Roy. "To what philosophy or religion is it closest to?"

Baba replied, "My teachings are not like any religion or philosophy. If you are looking to anything for close similarity, it would be a synthesis of Sufism, Zoroastrianism and Vedantism."

"I am glad to know this. As a professor in America, I teach comparative religion. I teach all three of these religions, Sufism as a part of Islam."

Chandra Roy next inquired, "How do you convey your gestures when you feel tired or get impatient?"

Baba took the blind man's hands into His and showed him how He did His signs, letting him feel His hands as He gestured. Chandra Roy asked, "Do you feel impatient at my questions?"

Baba joked, "Not yet."

Chandra Roy said, "I lost one day in my life by going to Ahmadabad by mistake instead of coming to Ahmednagar. How am I to make it up?"

Gesturing, Baba's answered, "Time has no real existence in Eternity."

Chandra Roy put other questions to Baba about metaphysics, to which he replied, "You will find all the answers to your questions in God Speaks. Study the book thoroughly and absorb it."

Chandra Roy said, "I have found that your teaching is the same Truth established through the ages."

Baba smiled and answered, "If it were otherwise, it would not be Truth! Truth is but one, the same and eternal. However, I have not come to teach it, but to give it."

Baba pointed to the metal plaque on the wall, which Eruch read out, "I have come not to teach but to awaken."

While leaving Meherazad, the professor told the mandali how happy and satisfied he was with meeting Baba, and said more than once, "Baba is indeed compassionate!"

Later, Chandra Roy summarized his meeting with these words:

Meher Baba's love is really very genuine and very great. He showed me what life should really embody, that is, about the "power of love" as opposed to "love of power." Most of us have experienced love of power, but very few of us have experienced the power of love.

After meeting Baba I concluded for myself, here is a person who embodied, practiced and inspired many of us with the power of love. I will cherish the interview I had with him throughout my life.

 

35 –DR. SHUSHILA NAYYAR

Ex. Health Minister of Health Govt, of India

 The Third World Religious Conference, which had been sponsored by Muni Shushil Kumarji, was held in Ram Lila Grounds. New Delhi from 26th to 28th February 1965.

The Inaugural session started in the afternoon, with Prayers of All Religions by various representatives of societies /Associations etc. On behalf of Avatar Meher Baba centre, Sardar Amar Singh Saigal recited the Parvardigar or Master’s Prayer. Shri Guljari La Nanda was in the chair.

On the 27th evening session of religious Conference milling crowd came to Ram Lila ground. Dr. Sushila Nayyar, the health Minister of India delivered a nice speech.

36-DR. VIKRAM SARABHAI

Indian Scientist -A Student of Oxford University

Baba was not meeting the public in Bangalore, but at 3:30 P.M. on Sunday, 12 November 1939, he made an exception. He granted a few minutes of darshan to three accomplished young men: a Western author and art critic named Francis Watson, 32; an Indian science student, Vikram Sarabhai, 20, who was studying at Cambridge; and another Indian, Kittu Purna, a former student at Oxford. Baba told them to come back after a month, when he would answer any questions they had.

  

37-DR. ZABIH GHORBAN (QURBAN)

(Vice Chancellor of Pahlavi University of Shiraj)

In July 1966, Aloba ji had received a letter from his friend Dr. J.Mehrabanpur of Shiraj, a great devotee of Baba, who had earlier India with a team of lovers from Iran and had Baba darshan.

 

38-DR. TRIGUNA SEN

(Ex. Minister of Education, Govt. Of India)

In order to remember that eventful day of 2nd December 1952, when Baba gave Public darshan in Delhi. A meeting was held at Lajpat Bhawan Hal in New Delhi which was inaugurated by Mr. Triguna Sen, Minister of Education and offered their flower of devotion by speaking with great fervour about the life and teaching of Meher Baba. Dr W. D. Kain read the message received from By Baba.

 

39-EDWARD VIII

(King of United Kingdom who was abdicated)

On Tuesday, 25 June 1929, there was a discussion about an editorial in the Times of India regarding the "Bachelor Prince" of Wales, who later became King Edward VIII. Earlier, on 6 June, Baba had commented that the Prince had a very good heart. (Baba even revealed that he had been an Indian in his previous life.) On the 25th, Baba made some further appreciative remarks about him, saying, "He has a good character for a man of his position and surroundings. He has a past connection with me and will join me."

The mandali could only wonder silently, "But when?"

Baba continued, "I like heroes such as Napoleon and Shivaji; they were never cowards. Napoleon was courageous till the last. Alexander [the Great] was brave, also. Emperor Akbar was brave, but not as brave as Shivaji. Even when the situation was hopeless, these leaders did not run away. That is good. That is bravery. One must fight till the last, do or die!"

In England, a scandal was brewing when the King of England, Edward VIII, was revealed to be having an affair with Wallis Warfield Simpson, an American suing her husband for divorce. On 6 December 1936, Baba remarked that it would be good on the part of the king to give up his crown to marry the woman he professed to love, rather than prove false to his promise to marry her. "That would be a real mardi (heroic act)," Baba stated.

King Edward VIII had abdicated the British throne to marry Wallis Simpson.   His younger brother, George VI, was being crowned king in Westminster Abbey on Wednesday, 12 May 1937, and the Westerners listened to the coronation ceremony on B.B.C. radio.

Baba said,” Edward VIII has a past connection with me and will join me.”

“He lived at the time of Shivaji”

40-ERNST LUBITSCH

(Hollywood Film Star)

On Thursday, 2 June 1932, in the evening Baba, Meredith, Chanji and Quentin were driven to Santa Monica by director and producer Ernst Lubitsch, a "very fine and sincere man," and had tea with him at his house.